We know that the issue of family courts dealing with domestic abuse is contentious. In fact, it’s almost impossible to talk about it without being criticised by someone or other. We knew this when we produced our guidance note for families, and we knew it when we made the decision earlier this week to post a guest blog from barrister Charlotte Proudman. And so it is. Alongside a raft of congratulatory tweets, saying how brilliant and refreshing the post is, there are a number of others (still in the minority but enough) who are highly critical of the post and of the attitudes they see as underlying it.
Some have expressed their disappointment that we, a charity, would give a platform to a post that they see as gender biased, as lacking in evidential underpinning, and that does not reflect their own experience. So this seems a good time to restate our charitable objectives. These are set out in our constitution and are :
To advance the education of the public in the subject of family law and its administration, including the family justice system in England and Wales and the work of the family courts, in particular but not exclusively through the provision of balanced, accurate and accessible information about the work of family courts and the facilitating of public discussions and debates which encompass a range of viewpoints.
To promote the sound administration and development of the law in England and Wales, in particular, family law, by encouraging and contributing to the transparency of processes in the family justice system, contributing to public legal education concerning family law and matters of family justice, enhancing access to justice in matters of family law and by such other means as the trustees may determine.
This is what we were set up for; it is what we have always done and it is what we will continue doing.
Our longstanding editorial and comments policy states that
Opinions are welcomed, even strong or critical ones. You can comment even if you disagree with us.
Charlotte Proudman offers one view, based on her experience as a barrister, of how the courts deal with this issue. Readers are welcome to comment (politely in line with our comments policy) on whether they think that her experience is representative or atypical, on whether they think her post is written in a balanced way and on whether data backs up or undermines her claims. We encourage that and we think that Charlotte will engage with constructive challenge.
A number of commenters have been dismayed at the perceived lack of acknowledgment of male victims of abuse or of female perpetrators. In our own publications, we have always strived to acknowledge those issues fairly and neutrally. However, it would stifle debate to refuse to publish a guest blog post that does not adopt exactly the same approach as we do. We think it is fine for others to challenge us, or any of our guest authors. If we only published opinion we (the TP members) all agreed with, or we were confident all our readers would agree with, we would not be holding true to our objectives.
It is clear from our twitter timeline and comments that, for many readers (particularly female commentators who have experienced abuse), this blog post chimes with their experience. However, for a number of barristers, who do the same area of work, it does not. I am one barrister whose experience does not match Charlotte’s. I’ve seen most of the things she describes at some point, but in my experience those examples of poor practice and outdated attitudes are the exception rather than the rule, these days. If I were writing Charlotte’s post, I’d have written it in more gender neutral terms, acknowledging the victimhood of some men, and the reality that not all allegations are truthful or accurate. But mine is merely one view, my experience is just as much anecdote as Charlotte’s, and no doubt somebody will remind me that I have my own prejudices that I do not see or acknowledge. Nobody’s sole perspective is the whole truth about this difficult field.
Like Charlotte, I also appeared on the Victoria Derbyshire show in May, and subsequently I wrote in The Times about the limitations of anecdotal information : We must shed light on family court crisis – Protecting children’s privacy should always be paramount but we cannot rely on media reports and anecdotal evidence if we are to reform the system (sorry, paywall).
I note that some of the barristers who have commented on Charlotte’s post on twitter have themselves offered contradictory anecdotes, implicitly suggesting that the length of their experience trumps that of the less experienced Proudman. I think we all have to be careful about that. It is so easy for rounded debate to devolve into competitive attempts to discredit the ‘other side’ and for people to stop the voices that don’t match their own. We all of us see what we are looking for and remember what suits us – and so such our reported experiences are different. Some are more reflective about our cognitive biases than others.
Like Charlotte, I supported a call for an inquiry into family courts precisely to try and move us beyond anecdote. I have my doubts about whether the three month ‘spotlight review’ will fulfill that task. I would like The Transparency Project to offer a platform for sensible discussion about that issue – as our charitable objectives mandates us to do.
We are happy to host constructive contributions to this debate subject to legal requirements and restrictions. We welcome robust challenge but keep it clean please. We have already had to edit some comments.
For my part (as a barrister whose experience doesn’t entirely match Charlotte’s) I’m going to contribute some questions about why that might be – and duck out :
- Is Charlotte’s experience different than mine (and some other barristers) because something objectively different is happening in the courts she practises in than in the ones I practise in? i.e. are London judges doing it differently to those in the West Country?
- Is Charlotte’s experience different because she is taking on a different level of work or type of client than I am? Charlotte is 2010 call, whilst I am 2002. Some of the other commentators are also more senior (longer in experience) than her. The reality is that the more senior you get, the less private law legal aid do, so we may be seeing very different cases, prepared in different ways, allocated to different tiers of judiciary. I don’t know, I’m simply hypothesising (not least because year of call is not a precise way to guess the complexity or nature of work someone is doing).
- Are our responses to a failure to properly consider PD12J qualitatively different? Are some of us more robust in putting the judge or magistrates right when they are about to go off track?
- Are the responses of the judiciary to more senior counsel different (i.e. do they behave better of their own volition)?
- Has Charlotte simply had a run of bad luck in the responses she’s seen – or have I been very fortunate?
Charlotte and others may in due course have some thoughts of their own on these issues and on whether my questions are at all helpful.
For my part, I am not going to recruit specific examples to suggest that I know better than Charlotte, or better than the many other voices out there who say contradictory things about what is really happening. If I have any disagreement with Charlotte it is one I have with a number of other commentators of differing perspectives: your experience is no more valid than anyone else’s.
The responses to Charlotte’s post emphasise for me just how much we need a proper inquiry into the family court that can measure the powerful anecdotes and experiences we all bring against the objective reality in a way that the public can have confidence in.
Please comment on this post or on twitter. If you have a longer contribution to the debate please email us. We will not be recruited by any one part of the competing campaigns here and we will not be cowed into only publishing safe posts from one viewpoint, nor will we publish guest post that are no more than repetitive point scoring.
Lucy Reed is the Chair of The Transparency Project
PS : You can now read another post on this topic from Bob Greig (onlydads) here.
Pic courtesy of Bob Jagendorf (Flickr – creative commons – thanks!)
When in front of magistrates in supposedly simple private law cases (where there is no legal aid available anymore, and I am asked to assist in lieu of legal representation) I am often startled by how little law the bench appear to know. (For instance, this week a magistrate opined that there was no requirement for final evidence statements, as these DRA positions would suffice.)
This includes the South West, where the Family court regime is generally thought to benefit from a DFJ. particularly committed to reform.
It seems as though the instruction to control evidence is being wrongly interpreted and takes priority over the delivery of justice. There is a determination not to allow 12J to be invoked, as that may enable access to legal aid, and a knowledgeable voice; it is preferred to keep the confused and trembling LIP’s – who stand like rabbits in the headlights of often abusive ex’s – limited to discussing contact, and of course to keep the McKenzie Friend silent, and in their box.
The problem is compounded as the court can only rely upon the reports submitted – and too often the professional reports, at this low level at least, are poorly done. This may be the fault of too many cases and not enough resource… and the fact that, for instance, a response to an LIP application can sometimes be over 100 pages of closely typed incoherence, that recounts a protracted history of low-level hurt and micro-conflict that does not easily suggest resolution.
In such cases why is Section 16 (FAO) so seldom recommended? Why isn’t more effort put into Family Group conferences, with IRO Chairs who are then able, if necessary, to make reports to court?
Why does the court not concern itself more with the children being forced to live in this minefield of conflict, that causes chronic distress, even though, in the bench’s and Children Services determinedly occluded view, the unending emotional war that the kids must endure does not meet the threshold. In my view, these troubled scenarios require support that is rarely offered: hostilities stagger on until an inevitable incident pushes the situation into sharper focus. Then Children Services and the court are forced into action… but it is much too late, irreparable damage has already been done –
I think early help needs to begin much earlier; perhaps in school – communication in relationships and society is a necessary focus, to imbue a culture of prevention, instead of the non-stick, sticking plaster regime we currently uphold as representing justice.
Jai, your comment seemed to be the same piece of text twice so we’ve deleted the repeated bit.
What your end questions highlight is the inconsistency in and across the family court system.
Again, this matched our experience we had in having 13 judges/recorders sit on our case. What did strike us was how much the personality, personal attitudes and prejudices of the judges came to bear on how the hearings proceeded, especially in relation to us as LIPs in the first ten hearings, and then to our solicitor in the final six hearings.
Of course, the fact that we had thirteen difference judges deal with our case is the biggest and most obviously unhelpful inconsistency of all for starters. So one way to begin to deal with these inconsistencies, is to ensure that the same judge deals with the case from end to end.
Knowledge of a case is vital. When you get to your thirteenth judge and your paperwork is several inches deep and said judge has just been given your case papers half an hour before court breaks for lunch, it s not unreasonable for that judge to feel a sense of exasperation as several inches of paperwork slams down on tehir desk, but,[edited for legal reasons]
Judical prejudices also have to be tackled. When we came out after one of our hearings, the court clerk congratulated us and said how well we’d done, and then explained how impressed he was that we had got that particular judge ‘on our side’. When asked what he meant, he replied “because he’s known as the DADDIES judge”.
So so so much about the whole CP process from the first knock on the door at home to the final court decision is influenced by the personal outlook, prejudices and influences of the professionals involved, from social workers to solicitors to judges.
A child’s life should not depend on personal variablities, and even, the mood of that professional on that day at that time. Decisions that deny a child a right to grow up within or knowing its birth family, or having enforced contact with an abusive parent, seem at times to be being made on the whims of the professionals involved. Professional standards in CP? Phuff. Consistency in CP? Phuff. Reliability in CP? Phuff. Trust in CP? Phuff. Justice in CP? If you’re lucky and it’s a good day for all involved – maybe. Protection from harm for the child in CP? Has the judge read ALL the case notes? Has the social worker reached the next level of Candy Crush yet? (I kid you not with that one!). Is the Guardian sleep deprived? How long is that piece of string?
Protection from harm for a child who is subject to the FC process is currently like the British weather. Completely unpredictable and unreliable. Only, unlike the rain, the effects of harm aren’t transitory when they occur. They’re lifelong. And in far too many cases they result BECAUSE of a FC decision.
Judgements in the FC need to depend less on the personal foibles of the professionals involved and more on evidence. Actual evidence. Not an opinion, unless from a peer acknowledged expert. Evidence must be verifiable. Decisions must be based on beyond reasonable doubt. Children must be allowed as witnesses. Proven perjury must be subjected to criminal court action. FC processes and procedures must be at least as rigorous as in the criminal courts.
We’ve edited your comment slightly for legal reasons.